AP* Retreat Meeting
20 February 2005
Venue: Room-H, Kyoto International Conference Hall (KICH), Kyoto, Japan
Co-chair: Hirofumi Hotta, JPRS/APEET and Tommy Matsumoto, APNG
Present: Che-Hoo Cheng, DotAsia
Ching Chiao, TWNIC/APTLD
Ian Chiang, TWNIC
Kilnam Chon, KAIST
Keith Davidson, InternetNZ
Atsushi Endo, JPRS
Shigeki Goto, Waseda University
Geoff Huston, APNIC
Yoo Ji Yul, NIDA (KRNIC)
Gen Kanai, Technorati Japan K.K
Anne Lord, APNIC
Suresh Ramasubramanian, APCAUCE
Shiori Satou, JPCERT Coordination Center
James Seng, IDA
Philip Smith, APIA
Toru Takahashi, IAjapan
Masahito Yamaga, JPCERT Coordination Center
Ole Jacobsen, IPJ-Cisco
Zhang Shu, NICT
Hong Goo Cho, Netpia
Tom Vest, Packet Clearing House
Zita Wenzel, APRUNet
Pensri Arunwatanamongkol, AIT/AP* Retreat Secretariat
Meeting commenced at 9:15am.
Agenda Bashing
The meeting started with greetings from the chair, Hiro Hotta. The chair asked the participants to review the agenda. The minutes follow the sequence of the meeting agenda.
1. Roll Call
The chair then asked attendees to introduce themselves.
2. AP* Organization and Meeting Reports
2.1 Asia Broadband Summit (ABS) by Toru Takahashi
- The presenter gave a brief introduction of ABS's origin that Dr. Kilnam Chon suggested to have a new conference "Broadband Summit" in 2001. In May 2002, Prof. Toru talked about collaboration with Madam Hu of ISC at INET2002 in Washington DC. After that, the three Internet associations in China, Japan and Korea planned to have the "Asian Broadband Summit" with the aims of contribution to the development of Broadband service and Internet industry through the use of Broadband technology.
- Speaking about Asian initiatives, the Internet service in the Asia-Pacific region enters a new phase with the opening of the Broadband era. Although this region has traditionally lagged behind the U.S and Europe, it is emerging and growing toward becoming the largest Broadband market in the world. The marvelous development of Broadband in Korea leads the region, and Japanese IT strategy is encouraging this movement. In China, things are just beginning, however, a powerful movement gathering the leading technology and services from all over the world for implementing into a massive market.
- The broadband network is developed very fast in Korea and market for broadband content is matured. In Japan, the Broadband network has been promoting. It is expected that China will be the biggest Broadband market. The tremendous new businesses will be born in the near future.
- The Internet Alliance of China, Japan and Korea (IACJK) was formed on 27 November 2002 in Shanghai through MOU which was signed by Chairs of Internet Society of China, Internet Association Japan and Internet Association of Korea.
- Then, the presenter explained about DSL subscriber, JPIX Traffic, and WIDE-NSPIXP2 Traffic with the help of graphs.
- History of ABS:
-- 4th Asia Broadband Summit, Kyoto (2005.2.22~23)
-- 3rd Asia Broadband Summit, Seoul (2004.6.25)
-- 2nd Asia Broadband Summit, Beijing (2003.12.7)
-- 1st Asia Broadband Summit, Tokyo (2002.10.17)
- Committee Co-Chair
-- China: Jianping WU, Director of CERNet
-- Japan: Toru Takahashi, Senior Vice President of IAjapan
-- Korea: Kilnam Chon, Professor of KAIST
- The presenter mentioned that there was no relationship between APRICOT and ABS at first. There was a report of first ABS at AP*. APRICOT is for operators and ABS covers broader issues as like as content; Games, IP phone, Webcasting etc. ABS organizer wanted to merge with APRICOT. At 3rd ABS in Seoul, there was a consensus to join APRICOT 2005 in Kyoto.
- Lastly, presenter explained about ABS sessions which are included in APRICOT 2005.
Questions and discussion
- Prof. Chon raised the issue to expand ABS Asia wide since currently only three countries participated and what if attached to APRICOT.
- Philip added that the next APRICOT will be in Bangalore but no interest in broadband yet.
- TW supported the idea of attachment to APRICOT.
- Hiro asked whether there is any number of fiber subscriber. Prof. Chon replied that no confirmed data so far.
- Tommy also supported the idea of ABS and said that it needs a couple of years to cover other countries as well. What about including Pacific (developing countries) says like APBS? It is needed to motivate those countries to get involve in these ABS activities. Prof. Chon replied that ABS is easier to pronounce and remember. It may start with South east and South Asia first.
2.2 APAN Update by Shigeki Goto
- The presenter gave a short history of APAN. In March 1996, the idea of APAN was born at APEC Symposium in Japan, inspired by Dr. Steve Goldstein. Prof. Chon from KAIST and Michael McRobbie from ANU took a lead for realizing the regional broadband networks, APAN.
- Management Team:
-- Chair: Shigeki Goto (JP)
-- Vice Chairs: Jianping Wu (CN)
George McLaughlin (AU)
Dae Young Kim (KR)
-- Treasurer: Lawrence Wong (SG)
-- Managing Dir: Wanchai Rivepiboon (TH)
-- Secretary: sec@apan.net
- APAN Members:
-- Primary Members (15): AU,CN,HK,JP,KR,SG,MY,TW,PH,LK,TH,BD,IN,NZ,PK
-- Assoc. Members: TransPAC, PWAVE
-- Affiliate Members: APNG, APRU, APBioNet etc.
-- Liaison Members: CANARIE, DANTE, TERENA, Internet2, CLARA
-- Industry Members: Cisco, Juniper
- The APAN-JP members are:
-- MIC (Internal Affairs and Communications NICT)
-- MOE (Education Culture Sports and Science and Technology NII)
-- METI (Economy Trade and Industry AIST)
-- MAFF (Agriculture Forestry and Fishery MAFFIN)
-- MHLW (Health Labor and Welfare NCC)
-- WIDE
- The presenter explained about APAN Network Topology, APAN Regional Groups, and links between JP and US with the help of charts.
- The APAN Links information is updated and available at http://www.apan.net/documents/linkinfo.xls as of July 7, 2004.
- Speaking about collaborations among multiple links between JP and US, the links have their own objectives as well as the policies, defined by the budget. APAN-JP is using 3 JP-US links as the following preferences: TransPAC, JGN2 and SINET. The integrated network environments will be discussed by the engineers, followed by the understandings of the administrators to meet the user's requirements. HOPI will be adopted for the smooth developments to Lambda Networks.
- At SC2004 conference held on Nov 6-12, 2004 in Pittsburgh, five groups participated in the Bandwidth challenge in which one group, e-VLBI made the global demonstration. Three groups got the awards, and one group assisted the award:
-- Univ. of Tokyo: Third Generation Data Reservoir
-- Kyushu Univ., KISDI and CERNET: Showing Bandwidth of CJK (China, Japan and Korea)
-- JAXA: Effective Rapid Remote File System for Supercomputer Users who are not network expert
-- UIC assisted by JGN2 Kyushu: National Center for Data Mining SC04 Bandwidth Challenge
- NSF's IRNC projects:
-- APAN is a loosely-coupled network consortium, and multiple NSF's IRNC projects will be granted to APAN members:
- TransPAC2: APAN-JP & most APAMN members lead by Indiana Univ. & Internet 2
- Gloriad: CSTNet & KROENet2 lead by Greg Cole @ UTK
- Pacific WAVE: AARNet & U-Hawaii lead by USC
-- These projects are required to have good collaborations and all groups will surely work together under the flag "APAN", though we might belong to different IRNC projects.
- Collaborations have started with TransPAC2 and Gloriad and routes "RU-Beijing-HK-Tokyo-US" will be established. Joint research projects between Russia and Japan will be promoted.
- And the presenter briefed about the future activities and past APAN meetings.
- Finally, the information on 20th APAN Meetings in Taipei, which is planned to hold from 23-27 August 2005 at Howard Plaza Hotel, was disclosed.
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
2.3 APCERT by Shiori Satou
- APCERT is a coalition of Computer Security Incident Response Teams (CSIRTs) which is formed by 15 teams from 12 economies across the Asia Pacific region. It was officially founded in February 2003. JPCERT/CC is providing a secretariat function.
- The objectives of APCERT:
-- Enhance regional and international cooperation on information security in Asia;
-- Jointly develop measures to deal with large-scale or regional network security incidents;
-- Facilitate technology transfer and sharing of information about security, computer virus and malicious code among its members;
-- Promote collaborative research and development on subjects of interest to its members;
-- Assist other CSIRTs in the region to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of computer emergency responses;
-- Provide inputs and/or recommendations to help address legal issues related to information security and emergency response across regional boundaries; and
-- Organize an annual conference to raise awareness on computer security incident response and trends.
- APCERT organizes its annual meeting called Asia Pacific Security Incident Response Coordination Conference (APSIRC) and the first conference was held in Tokyo, 2002. And 2003 in Chinese, Taipei, 2004 in Malaysia and 2005 in Kyoto in collaboration with APRICOT.
- Any CSIRT from Asia Pacific Region, who is interested to furthering the objectives of APCERT, will be allowed to join as APCERT members after meeting all member accreditation requirements. APCERT membership model has 2 levels: Full members & General Members.
- APCERT Members:
-- AusCERT (Australian Computer Emergency Response Team) - AU
-- BKIS (Bach Khoa Internetwork Security Center) - VN
-- CCERT (CERNET Computer Emergency Response Team) - P.R.CN
-- CNCERT/CC (National Computer network Emergency Response Team Coordination Center of China) - P.R.CN
-- HKCERT/CC (Hong Kong Computer Emergency Response Team Coordination Center) - HK
-- IDCERT (Indonesia Computer Emergency Response Team) - ID
-- JPCERT/CC (Japan Computer Emergency Response Team) - JP
-- KrCERT (Korea Internet Security Center) - KR
-- MyCERT (Malaysian Computer Emergency Response Team) - MY
-- PH-CERT (Philippines Computer Emergency Response Team) - PH
-- SecurityMap.Net CERT (Securitymap Networks Computer Emergency Response Center) - KR
-- SingCERT (Singapore Computer Emergency Response Team) - SG
-- ThaiCERT (Thai Computer Emergency Response Team) - TH
-- TWCERT/CC (Taiwan Computer Emergency Response Team/ Coordination Center)
- TW
-- TWNCERT (Taiwan National Computer Emergency Response Team) - TW
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
2.4 APNIC Update by Anne Lord
- The presenter reported that current status and activities of the APNIC Secretariat.
The total membership is now approaching 900. The membership tier structure was explained. The distribution of members among the economies of the region has changed over time. The economy which is growing most steadily in terms of membership in Australia. APNIC has never gone into negative membership growth, even throughout the dotcom crash.
- IPv4 address allocation is accelerating in this region. APNIC now holds 12/8 blocks. The most recently allocated blocks are 59 and 60. The majority of the allocations are in Japan and Mainland China.
- The presenter noted that in last four years, APNIC has been allocating more IPv4 addresses than the other RIRs.
- The Helpdesk operates a one day turnaround on telephone and email. This is assisted by the success of MyAPNIC. The presenter also noted that the MyAPNIC demonstration that is available which was entirely produced by APNIC staff. There are plans to introduce VoIP to the APNIC phone system to improve access to the Helpdesk. The Helpdesk times will be extended to provide more support for South Asia. There are also plans to provide more ISP support information on the website.
- The presenter displayed a map illustrating APNIC's work in establishing F, I and K root server instances in the region.
- In December 2004, APNIC completed the task of importing all appropriate records in the network block 192/8 from the ARIN database. This marked the completion of the Early Registration Transfer (ERX) project which was began in January 2003. This ERX project is a coordinated cross-RIR effort to move whois records for address space registered before the advent of the RIRs into the whois database of the RIR in whose region the registrant is based.
- APNIC training services have been expanded. There are now three core courses, as well as DNS Workshops, IRR Tutorials, and there is development in technical aspects of IPv6, Routing and SPAM, security, 'dynamics of the policy process' and remote access on-line training delivery. To date, there have been approximately 30 sessions across the region. The feedback on training is consistently high, as is feedback on the need for training.
- In terms of collaborations, APNIC outsource training admin to AIT in Thailand, trial SOI-Asia in tutorial web-casting at APNIC19 as well as collaborations with ISOC, PITA & NSRC to deliver systems workshop and ccTLD workshop in the Pacific.
- The APster newsletter is not targeted specifically for the membership. It is intended to be of broader interest to the community. There are many interesting articles from industry experts like ENUM, IP addressing in China, DNSSEC, and Internet Governance etc. The annual reports, brochures, policy documents and training materials are also available in Bahasa Indonesian, Chinese (simplified), Chinese (traditional), Japanese, Korean, Thai and Vietnamese translations.
- The presenter briefed about APNIC staffing. There are now 43 staffs in the Secretariat. Staff growth is slowing down as efficiencies are increasing.
- The Secretariat has appointed a second area liaison officer, this time for the South Asia area.
- As part of the organization's ongoing outreach program, APNIC has recently signed MoUs with four of South Asia's major ISP associations: ISPAI, ISPAB, ISPAN, and ISPAK.
- APNIC looks forward to collaborating with these organizations for the benefit of the whole Internet Community.
- APNIC deploys a new root CA certificate to replace the current root certificate.
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
2.5 APEET by James Seng
- APEET is Asia Pacific ENUM Engineering Team which is informal team supported by the respective organizations and any cost are voluntarily shared.
- ENUM is Electronic Numbering, an emerging protocol for mapping standard international telephone number to a Uniform Resource Indicator (URI), using the DNS architecture.
- The membership is restricted to ccTLD administration. The initial members are CNNIC, JPRS, KRNIC, SGNIC and TWNIC. (Exception: individual experts may)
- APEET Chair is James Seng (SGNIC) and Vice-Chairs: Chiao (TWNIC) and Shin (KRNIC).
- Objectives: The goal of APEET is to conduct joint trials and to promote the development of ENUM and its related technology such as SIP.
-- ENUM/SIP Trials
-- Share ENUM software
-- Share common "golden root"
-- Outreach activities
- The presenter highlighted the past meetings held in 2004~2005.
- The Live Trial conducted by APEET involves loaning Wifi SIP phones, sponsored by Hitachi-cable, preconfigured with an ENUM number and SIP account. Participants in the Live Trial were able to use the Wifi SIP phones to make free unlimited calls to each other and also PSTN calls to the Beijing, Singapore, Sweden, Taiwan and United States.
- Finally, the presenter thanked to all the APEET members and especially to JPRS, particularly Hotta-san and Yoneya-san and their team, without whose support, APRICOT Live Trial would not be possible.
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
2.6 APNG by Tommy Matsumoto
- The presenter showed APNG organization structure.
- APNG Organization:
-- Executive Committee
Chair: Tommy Matsumoto
V.Chair: Mao Wei/Benson Wu
CFO: Rikio Onai
-- Advisory Board
Kilnam Chon/ Haruhisa Ishida/ Tan Tin Wee/ Shigeki Goto/ Xing Li/ Tommy Matsumoto/ Paul Wilson/ Vincent Chen/
Jun Murai/ Toru Takahashi/ Abhisak Chulya/ Kazunori Konishi
-- Steering Committee
Ching Chiao/ Atsushi Endo/ Izumi Aizu/ James Seng/ Liu Xin/ Taeha Park/ Tommy Matsumoto/ Yoo Ji Yul
-- Secretariat
Shin Deki/ Masashi Sawada/ Yumiko Nakano
- And then APNG Server System Configuration/Web/Mailing lists were discussed. APNG Server is hosted by NTT Communications iDC in Tokyo, Japan and management and maintenance services are available 24/7/365.
- In financial status, on behalf of APNG the presenter thanks APNIC for their continuous support and financial status of APNG is still healthy where sponsorship to APNG is key subject. The main funding sponsors are APNIC and NTT Communication while APNC Camp Fellowship program is being sponsored by Weathernews Inc. and IIJ from Japan, KRNIC, TWNIC and Echelon Corp, T&Y Corp from USA.
- APNG holds NEXT GENERATION Camp at regular intervals. The aim of the Camp is to encourage the next generation and the next-generation-at-heart to join the Internet society, where in the future they will play a leading role.
- APNG Camp is the camp for future internet leaders in the Asia Pacific Region where AP seniors and the Next Generation learn and work together as well as the place for the Asian Perspective of the Internet is learned. It is also intend to foster multidisciplinary research including not only engineering but also non-engineering.
- And the presenter briefed about previous camps which were held in 2002 - 2004.
- The 6th APNG Camp chaired by Hongbo Shi (Waseda Uni.) was held from 21-23 February at Kyoto International Conference Hall. The Vice Chairs are Rachel Pang from TW, Kyoho from Korea and Liu Xin from China. Over 60 people from over 20 countries in which 26 fellows from 16 countries participated. Key areas are Internet History Museum in AP region, Disaster Recovery and Prevention (Tsunami-WG), and Internet technology (Security, IPv6, Ubiquitous, etc.). The sponsors are APNIC, NTT Communications, TWNIC, NIDA, Weathernews, Echelon and IIJ.
- APNG believes that our history is as important as our future. The Internet History Museum will display how Internet developed and spread in the region.
- APNG is supporting ICANN's At Large Membership, and working for the establishment of RALO (Regional At-Large Org.) in AP region.
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
2.7 APRICOT/APIA by Philip Smith
- The presented started off with the members of the Board of Directors in which Dr. Abhisak Chulya (Chairman), Gaurab Upadhaya (V.Chair), Kyoko Day (Treasurer), Philip Smith (Secretary) and others are Ole Jacobsen, Scott Macdonald and James Seng.
- APIA's secretariat function was provided by PIKOM in Malaysia which is the Association of the Computer and Multimedia Industry of Malaysia, twice previously an APRICOT host. It was contracted for two-year term starting from September 2003 to August 2005.
- Regarding focus and strategies in 2004, the merger of APRICOT and APIA is completed. APRICOT is now major activity of APIC which provides legal umbrella for APRICOT. APIA Secretariat supports APRICOT Management and Programme Committees. During APRICOT 2004, MoUs were signed with APNIC and SANOG. APIA has already signed MoUs with EuroISPA and eCom-Lac in 2001 as well.
- And then the presenter updated APIA's membership status that at the end of 2004 there are 1 Corporate, 4 NPO, and 12 Individual Members so far.
- New members joining on 1st of October onwards will receive membership until end of following calendar year.
- In terms of Conference Support, not only supported APRICOT 2004 & 2005 where APIA Board's active participation in the APRICOT Management Committee but also participated in CommunicAsia2004 in Singapore as marketing vehicle for APRICOT2005 and APIA.
- Conference Endorsement:
-- SANOG4 in Kathmandu in July 2004
-- 7th International AP IP Telephony in Singapore in November 2004
-- SANOG5 in Dhaka in February 2005
-- NGN World in Bangkok in March 2005
-- CommunicAsia in Singapore in June 2005
-- SANOG6 in Thimphu in July 2005
- The registration of APRICOT name and logo was pursued as trademark.
- Speaking of plans for 2005-06, the presenter said that APIA will expand collaboration with other organizations and address the strategic focus and direction of APRICOT and APIA. The funding model for APIA and future direction of APRICOT will be discussed at APRICOT Management Committee Session on Monday 21st February in Room 560 from 18:00-20:00 at KICH.
- Administration:
-- Tidy up relationship with Citibank
- Bank account contact details
- Signatories (Kyoko Day and Philip Smith)
-- Renew registration of APIA in Seychelles
-- Redesign of APIA and APRICOT websites
- Similar look and feel
-- APIA Board resolutions on APIA Website
- Finally, the presenter highlighted APRICOT's specific activities in which endorsement to APRICOT Management Committee decision to host APRICOT 2005 in Japan and APRICOT in 2006 in India. The presenter, Philip Smith, himself was appointed as APRICOT Management Committee chair for 2004. APRICOT exhibition will be replaced with more informal sponsor social event (Modeled on NANOG "Beer'n' Gear").
Questions and discussion
- Prof. Chon suggested to have APRICOT more than one time a year and to launch mini APRICOTs. Since APRICOT's idea is to outreach educational activities, profitable way of making APRICOT is not recommended.
- Suresh added to form Southeast Asian Network Operators Group (SEANOG) and get started like SANOG.
- James Seng suggested that Indonesia is one of the good places to start off for mini APRICOT since hotel rates are much also cheaper than in Japan and commercial organizations will be willing to take part.
2.8 APTLD Update by Ian Chiang/TWNIC
- The presenter informed that on behalf of APTLD Secretariat, he was requested to make this presentation which was thought to be his last task for APTLD Secretariat since new APTLD secretariat had been selected for the next two year term 2005~2006.
- Face-to-Face Meetings in 2004:
-- 26 February AGM at KL, Malaysia
-- 18 July Members/Board Meeting at KL, Malaysia
-- 5 November Members/Board Meeting at Perth, Australia
- Two Board On-line Meetings were held on 11 February and 30 April in 2004, and one technical workshop on 24 February in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
- 2004 Highlights - Member Applications:
-- The LK Domain Registry (.lk)
-- National Information Center (.jo)
-- Norfolk Island Data Services (.nf)
-- Afilias Asia Limited
- 2004 Highlights - Outreach:
-- APNG and AP* Retreat at Cairns, AU (Chris and Ching Chiao)
-- APNIC 18 at Nadi, Fiji (Peter and Ian)
- 2004 Highlights - Sponsorship:
-- APNIC Perth Training
-- Mr. Muhammad Aslam (AFNIC) for Perth Meeting
- 2004 Highlights - Secretariat Appointment: The election took place from July - October 2004 and the handover was made during October 2004 - February 2005 for the tasks of Finance, Website and Archives. APTLD was contracted with "Deloittee & Touche" to audit APTLD finance for 2003 and 2004. Regarding publication, Sponsorship pamphlets are under processing with assistance from MYNIC and e-Newsletter.
- The presenter summarized 2004 Board election that five Board seats were up for fresh elections.
- 2005 Objectives:
-- Internal matters
- 2005 Board Election
- Secretariat Handover
- Meeting schedule for 2005
-- 20-22 February - Kyoto
-- June/July - Singapore
-- November - TBD
- Internal reporting: Revise the Board's requirements for financial reporting on an ongoing basis.
- Committee support/policy: Work closely with committee chairs to advance work programme and deliver policy analysis where required for APTLD position statements
- Information Management: Website Maintenance/Review, Mailing lists and Newsletter Publishing
-- The membership committee activities, technical committee activities and cooperation with Regional TLD/International Organizations will be undertaken for outreach works.
- The presenter finally briefed on APTLD Board for 2005, APTLD members and its status, and APTLD Committees.
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
2.9 intERLab Update by Pensri A.
- The presenter presented intERLab's activities in 2004 in four sections: Training; E-learning; Information Center; and Research.
- Speaking of trainings, APNIC DNS Workshop was held on 16-18 March 2004 and it was supported by AIT and APTLD. 22 participants attended the workshop. With the support of AIT and SOI-Asia, Operators Workshop was held on 16-24 2004 and 15 network engineers from 4 countries participated. From 7-11 October 2004, DNS/ccTLD Registry Workshop was held with the support of ISOC, PIR, NSRC, L'agence Internationale de la Francophonie, APNIC, RIPE NCC, Registro .br, ICANN, O'Reilly Books and Pearson Education.
- In the area of e-learning, the presenter outlined the VClass software development, AVIST which was launched on 12 May 2004, VClass training at SEAMEO INNOTECH/PH which was conducted on 19-22 October 2004 and GMSVU's 2nd VClass training on 13-17 December 2004.
- The intERLab information center has one APNIC Event Coordinator, AP* Retreat Secretariat and APAN Secretariat.
- In the area of research, Dr. Yasuo Tsuchimoto, a seconded faculty from Keio University in Japan is working at intERLab. Also a joint research grant with INRIA and the Japanese WIDE project on "IPv6 and Rural Connectivity". The proposal for E-training for Quality Village Product was submitted to PAN ASIA ICT R&D Grants Programme but unfortunately, it was not selected.
- The presenter gave details on donations from US for intERLab. They are 3 Cisco Routers 2500, 2 Kentrox CSU/DSU devices, 2 Livingston Portmaster, 2 USRobotics MP16 Total Control modem racks, 2 Cisco Catalyst 10/100 switches, 1 HP 10/100 switch, 1 Livingston Router, 1 3Com Hub, 7 Access Points + accessories (antennas), 2 six-port power-over-injectors, 1 12-port injector, cabling, connectors, power and technical books.
- Words of thanks also went to Steve Huter (NSRC), O'Reilly for technical books, Randy Bush for yagi antennas, Internet Society for covering part of shipping expenses and NSF for supporting efforts.
- So far, no donation from Asia Pacific yet.
- 2005 Activities Plan:
-- APTLD technical training (Basics of DNS) on 21 February at APRICOT 2005
-- 6 Trainings @ intERLab
- UNIX System Administration: 14-18 March
- Network Operators: 17-20 May
- Advanced DNS (APTLD): 14-17 June
- Network Security: 25-29 July
- 2nd VClass Training for AVIST Technical Support: 16-19 August
- Traffic Measurement and Analysis: 18-20 October
- The presenter called for sponsors for these trainings.
Questions and discussion
- Prof. Chon suggested that "training the trainers" should be more effective way. Anyhow, it is a great start to see in particular trainings from intERLab starting from 2005. Still, it is not possible to compete with like APNIC or APTLD. But should ask big companies like what type of trainings they need and intERLab should serve.
- Tommy offered to appoint APNG secretariat with funding established through intERLab.
3. Session I
3.1 Internet History by Kilnam Chon
- The presenter explained why Internet History should be developed.
- By referring to the table that shows Internet History from AP* Retreat website, the presenter encouraged to all participants to help develop the history.
- The history table can be viewed at www.apstar.org .
Questions and discussion
- Prof. Chon insisted to prepare each country/economy's internet history as a team's movement and hoped for APNG's Internet History group will also coordinate with AP* secretariat on Internet Connectivity.
4. Session II
4.1 WSIS/WGIG (from APNIC/RIR perspective) by Geoff Huston
- The presenter briefed about the background to the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS). WSIS is an Intergovernmental UN summit on all aspects of the “Information Society” to maximize benefits and opportunities, minimize adverse impacts, address digital divide with Millennium Development Goals (MDGs). It was originally proposed by ITU. Phase I was during 2002-2003 with 5 prepcoms and the Geneva summit in December 2003. The outputs were Declaration of Principles and Plan of Action. Two working groups were formed: Financial Mechanisms (WGFM) and Internet Governance (WGIG). Phase II is during 2004-2005 with 3 prepcoms and a Tunis summit in November 2005.
- The Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG) was formed on 11 November 2004 in order to prepare for the second phase of WSIS, to be held in Tunisia in November 2005. It is a group of experts that was chartered by the Plan of Action of the Geneva stage of the WSIS to develop a working definition of Internet governance; to develop a common understanding of the respective roles and responsibilities of participants in Internet governance; and to identify the public policy issues that are relevant to Internet governance.
- The WGIG is required to present an interim report to PrepCom-2, followed by a final report in June, so that it can be discussed in PrepCom-3. These issue papers are now being drafted by the group. Current plans are to release the first draft by February 2005, so that they can then be commented by the public, either online or at the open consultations that will be held in Geneva on 14-16 February.
- The WGIG is expected to submit a report on its findings to the Secretary-General in July 2005.
- APNIC's position is to promote the need for continued stability in IP address distribution systems, to dispel misconceptions and misunderstanding relating to the address distribution system and address distribution outcomes and to promote a position of "do no harm", and be mindful of cross-impacts when proposing changes to infrastructure administrative functions.
- Discussion paper from ITU-T proposing competitive IPv6 address distribution arrangements using national agencies to operate in competition with RIR structure.
- NRO response highlighted the risks of such a proposal in terms of address fragmentation, inherent inefficiencies in a dual system, industry confusion and potential network instability.
- APNIC's position notes the differences between the APNIC NIR arrangements in place today and the ITU-T proposal.
- In order to dispel the misconceptions and misunderstandings, in APster December issues, some of the specific issues that have been raised in relation to IP addressing in China; a background briefing paper on ICANN, the ITU, WSIS and Internet Governance; and IP addressing schemes - a comparison of geographic and provider based IP address schemes were discussed. APNIC also responded to WGIG paper on Domain Names and IP Addresses. The response can be available at http://www.wgig.org/docs/Comment-APNIC.pdf .
- On APNIC website, Internet Governance area is added to publish digest of recent developments. The NIR structure underlines the benefits of coherence of address distribution policy and practice.
- APNIC supports the development of AP regional perspectives on the WGIG activity through collaboration with APDIP to launch ORDIG (Open Regional Dialogue on Internet Governance) and with UNDP APDIP Internet Governance Portal. As well as loan of 2 APNIC staff members to assist APDIP in project.
- The presenter discussed NRO activities as well explaining that it is supporting the role of ICANN and its path to genuine internationalization and independence in its role, calling on the US government for a clear plan for independence of ICANN, and supporting the involvement of the public sector, in the context of the current models of management of administrative functions.
- Outlook:
-- There is a number of pressing Internet-related issues driving the WSIS process.
- The evolution of many traditional communications services into the Internet-based services and the various impacts of this change
- Integrating the increasing role of private sector within the data communications activity domain into the established international public sector structures
- The adoption of international Internet administrative structures those are robust, independent, fair and effective in a mixed public and private sector domain
-- On a larger scale
- This is not an ICANN vs. ITU debate, but a deeper consideration into the most effective manner of meeting a very diverse set of expectations relating to the global role of the Internet over the coming decades.
- The WSIS process will have far-reaching implications for the future of the Internet.
- Finally, the presenter concluded that we all have to recognize threat to "Internet tradition" which needs lobbying at Government level and may need further evolution to current model (for instance, ICANN); attend WSIS prepcoms, and regional preparatory meetings; organize and attend information sessions like at APRICOT, APNIC meetings; and prepare and submit formal submission to WGIG and other committees and to ICANN regarding WSIS.
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
4.2 AtLarge by Yoo Ji Yul
- Internet Address in the key core tech in networking world. Who makes standard and who control the Internet Address is a core issue of Internet Governance which has relation the sovereignty.
- If we take narrow meaning, Internet governance is technical coordination issues such as carried out by ICANN and IETF, for example, delegation of ccTLD, creation of new gTLD, technical issues of DNS security, standardization of some network technology, allocation of IPv4 and IPv6. In broader meaning, "on the internet", relating to what the internet carries like including critical issues such as Internet pricing, interconnection, and policies regarding Content, Taxation of cyber-trade, Spam and Information Security, Privacy and Trust, etc. We need to take step by step governance policies according to the development of ICT. In sum, Internet governance is relating to the operating, maintenance, development of cyberspace for development human and society.
- If speaks about management of domain system which is political issue, who creates new gTLD? ccTLD has closely related to the sovereignty in cyberspace.
- Standardization of Internet address technology is a technical and practical governance of Cyberspace. Who, how and what for making standardization? Which new technology and who control new technology? And security, are the main issues of governance.
- The arrangement of cyberspace is related to economic interest (trade and taxation). The expansion of communication brings cultural exchange like problem of culture identity social integration.
- Internet could change new world order system like political disorder, creation of one new global community.
- Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is neither official nor private, a kind of 3rd sector organization. Until now, it is the main participant and leader of IG which is organized and maintained by voluntary and many concerned group. Technical issue is a main concern but also have concerned in socio-economic issues.
- ITU is an official organization composed of each government delegate, which takes IG as the most high profile issue. It puts efforts to involve the governance debate as an official and inter-governmental subject in ITU.
- ICANN's Mission:
-- Coordinates the allocation and assignment of the three sets of unique identifiers for the Internet, which are Domain Names, Internet Protocol and AS numbers and protocol port and parameter numbers.
-- Coordinates the operation and evolution of the DNS root name server system.
-- Coordinates policy development reasonably and appropriately related to these technical functions.
- During WSIS, ICANN raised the problems in controlling the root servers, ccTLD re-delegation and operation, Unequal allocation of IP address, and Internationalized Domain Names (IDN).
- The presenter noted that failure of I-democracy in ICANN in which ICANN's inherent problems were discussed. Coordinating all Stakeholders' conflict interest conflicts and achieving representation through open decision making process is inherently impossible. Disregarding Internet Community in decision making process brings the legitimacy problems.
- Participation Problems:
-- No actual affect on ICANN's decision making
-- Lack of open/transparent procedure on users' input
-- Uninformed participation problem
-- Internet Community's frustration of being ignored and giving up their participation
-- Cost-efficiency problem
- At-Large Vision & Objectives:
-- Promoting users' participation
- To counterbalance private sector interests and defend public interest and competition
- To contribute specific skills and expertise
- To establish a quick reaction loop
- To increase geopolitical diversity
- The groups newly designated as ALSs are Arab Knowledge Management Society, Internet Society Vasudhay Kutumbhkum, ISOC Taiwan Chaper, At-Large@China and National Info. Infra. Enterprise Promotion Assoc. The Communications and Multimedia Consumer Forum of Malaysia (CFM) and Internet Users Network are under due diligences.
- The presenter briefed about building RALO in Asia and two preparatory meetings held in 2004.
- Challenges for RALOs: how we can help to build up At-Large activity in each country, how individuals participate after RALO established, funding issues, setting up Secretariat and the need to produce reasonable working mechanism were raised.
- The presenter concluded with the fact that user participation is about advocacy: promoting interested user's participations, allowing good ideas by active individuals or small groups to emerge and opinions to be confronted and consensus to form.
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
4.3 AP-RALO by Tommy Matsumoto
- ICANN coordinates global Internet's systems of unique identifiers, including systems of domain names/numeric addresses used to reach all computers on the Internet; also coordinates related policy development. In 2003, re-organization of ICANN increased role of individual user community (At-Large) to help guide ICANN's activities/decisions along with other Internet stakeholders (such as domain name registration companies, Internet service providers, etc.
- ICANN created Interim At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) in 2003 and called for framework of local, regional groups to promote structured involvement and informed participation of world's "At-Large" community.
- The current ALAC advisory committee members in AP:
-- Tommy Matsumoto (based in Japan)
-- Izumi Aizu (based in Japan)
-- Hong Xue (based in P.R. China)
- At-Large framework under construction is under construction. Existing or newly formed groups designated as At-Large Structures focus on participation by individual users at the local or issue level. At regional level, 5 regional At-Large orgs. (RALOs) created by At-Large Structures, act is regions' main forum/coordination point for public input to ICANN. Internationally, ALAC composed mostly of members selected by RALOs, providing advice on activities of ICANN that relate to the interests of individual users.
- Groups that involve (or want to involve) individuals in Internet issues should seek "At-Large Structure" designation and have a voice in ICANN activities and decisions. At-Large Structures (ALSs) represent a variety of individual users and are wholly independent from ICANN. ALS designation is free and simply recognized groups meet ICANN's criteria for informing and involving individual users.
- The types of groups designated (or interested in designation) as At-Large Structures include: Professional societies (e.g. engineers, attorneys), academic orgs, community networking groups, consumer advocacy groups, Internet Society chapters, computer/Internet user orgs, and Internet civil society groups.
- ALSs have recognized role in forming policies that affect how individuals use the Internet; quick and easy access to first-hand information on what's happening in ICANN and why it matters to end-users; opportunities to provide group members education on ICANN's work and Internet developments; interaction with other groups in the same region and groups with common interests; representation in ICANN at regional and international level; opportunities for group members to serve on important regional/international decision-making bodies in ICANN; and Internet tools to support groups' work, and potential for grant funding to support selected group activities.
- To date, there are 19 Groups designated as "At-Large Structures": Societ`a Internet (Italy/Europe); Arab Knowledge Mgt. Society (Jordan/Asia-Pac.); Alfa-Redi (Peru/Latin America-Carib); FITUG (Germany/Europe); Internet Society Luxembourg (Luxembourg/Europe); Internet Society Bulgaria (Bulgaria/Europe); Moroccan Internet Society (Morocco/Africa); Anais. AC (Cameroon/Africa); Sudan Internet Society (Sudan/Africa); and Internet Society - Finland (Finland/Europe); Catalan Chapter of the Internet Society (Spain/Europe), Assoc. Costarricense de Derecho Info. (Costa Rica/Latin America-Carib.); Internet Society Vasudhay Kutumbhkum (India/Asia-Pac.); ISOC Taiwan Chapter (Taiwan/Asia-Pac.); At-Large@China (P.R.China/Asia-Pac.); Natl. Info. Infra. Enterprise Promotion Assoc. (Taiwan/ Asia-Pac.); Internet Society Congo (DRC/Africa); Internet Users Network (Japan/Asia-Pac.) and Internet Society Belgium (Belgium/Europe).
- And then the presenter explained the procedures to designate as "At-Large Structure" and how At-Large Structures can benefit AP region's users. Through websites, online discussion lists, email announcements, conferences, etc. ICANN At-Large will have the information and tools users need to be involved. User involvement enabled by At-Large Structures will help ensure that ICANN takes actions that reflect individual Internet users' needs in this region.
- Asia-Pacific (At-Large Structures) User groups work together to sign MoU with ICANN to create Asia-Pacific Regional At-Large Organization (APRALO). APRALO will be coordination point for information and participation of AP users as well as can serve as strong voice and support mechanism for individual user community involvement in ICANN and in other international fora.
- By working together, AP (At-Large Structures) user groups can affect ICANN actions on range of issues important to users. The presenter explained the areas that At-Large community is actively working on.
- Finally, the presenter invited to join At-Large and participate in ICANN and other International fora making decisions critical to the Internet's end users by insisting that "At-Large Structure" designation is free, easy, and can be done online.
Questions and discussion
- No further discussions at this time.
4.3 APRUNet by Zita Wenzel
- Not on the agenda but the presenter was invited to make a presentation on APRUNet.
- The Association of Pacific Rim Universities (APRU) is a consortium of 36 leading universities from 16 economies in the Pacific Rim. Formed in 1997, it aims to foster cooperation in education, research and enterprise thereby contributing to the economic, scientific and cultural advancement of Pacific Rim economies.
- The Association of Pacific Rim Universities advanced networking activities (APRUNet) aims to assist in the development of advanced Internet capabilities among APRU universities and APEC economies in collaboration with strategic partners.
- The main goal is to develop teaching and research applications that utilize advanced Internet technologies, e.g., distance learning, virtual conferences, telemedicine, remote sensing. The Association of Pacific Rim Universities advanced networking activities (APRUNet) aims to assist in the development of advanced Internet capabilities among APRU universities and APEC economies in collaboration with strategic partners.
- APRUNet has formed strategic partnerships with organizations actively involved in the development and deployment of advanced networking technology and applications for the research and education community. These organizations include Asia Pacific Advanced Network Consortium (APAN), Corporation for Education Network Initiatives in California (CENIC) and University Corporation for Advanced Internet Development (UCAID). APRUNet activities include global meetings, workshops, and conferences, namely the annual Distance Learning and the Internet Conference.
- The presenter also briefed about the past and future meetings, and upcoming conferences.
- The presenter announced the student graphics competition. The objective is to get the students’ perspectives and involvement. Grid Technology and PovRay graphic generator tools. Users can submit their program to Nanyang Technical University to process and then download the results back onto their computer.
- How to submit: The participants can submit their PovRay program and the finished graphics together with a short write- up to explain the image, along with a short write-up on anything special they have used in the generation of the image.
- The 1st price is USD 500 while the 2nd price is USD300 and the 3rd is USD100 respectively. The competition is open to all undergraduate and postgraduate students from APRU as well as universities.
- Detailed information can be found at the link:
http://ntu-cg.ntu.edu.sg/Grid_Graphics_Competition/ . The presenter also distributed
the brochures for AP* Retreat delegates’ information.
5. Others and Future Meetings
- Prof. Chon proposed the issue to hold AP* Retreat meeting once a year only.
And requested ideas/suggestions via discuss mailing lists.
- There are responses to hold AP* Retreat meeting twice a year as it is now. This way, all can meet and update AP orgs. reports within every 6-month timeframe.
The next AP* Retreat will be held in conjunction with 20th APAN Meetings in Taipei on 22 August 2005, tentatively be co-chaired by Tommy Matsumoto and TWNIC.
The meeting adjourned at 5:30pm.
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