AP* Retreat Meeting,
22nd January 2006
Venue: Room 5B-3, 5th Floor, Akihabara Convention Hall
Co-chairs: Dr. Zita Wenzel,
APRUNet/USC & Mr. Atsushi ENDO, JPRS
Present: Mr. Atsushi ENDO, JPRS
Mr. Che-Hoo CHENG, DotAsia
Organization/Flag Telecom
Mr. Hiro Hotta, JPRS
Mr. Jack Y S Lin, JPCERT/CC
Prof. Kanchana
Kanchanasut, intERLab/AIT
Ms. Nurani
Nimpuno, APNIC
Mr. Ole
Jacobsen, Cisco Systems
Prof. Okhwa Lee, APNG
Ms. Pensri A., AIT/AP*
Retreat Secretariat
Prof. Shigeki Goto, APAN/Waseda
University
Ms. Shoko Mikawa, AIII/Soi-Asia
Mr. Takaaki
Higuchi, Sun Microsystems Inc.
Prof. Toru Takahashi,
IAjapan, RIIS
Ms. Wit Hmone
Tin Latt, AIT/AP* Retreat Secretariat
Ms. Yumi
Ohashi, JPRS/APTLD
Dr. Zita Wenzel, APRUNet/USC
Apologies : Mr. Hideo Ishii, AsiaNetcom
Mr. Izumi Aizu, Institute for HyperNetwork Society
ACTION ITEMS:
- AP* organizations are requested to prepare an open-ended report NOT a close-ended one in order to find a way to collaborate among AP orgs. in terms of resource persons or physical resources.
- Maintaining the collective information of AP* organizations on the AP* website, it would be very helpful for outsiders as well as for ourselves.
- Funding support to AP* Retreat
Secretariat and maintenance of AP* website (e.g., Corporate Sponsorship) and
providing payment facilities by intERLab/AIT prior to the meeting.
- Invitations to new organizations.
Meeting commenced at 9:00 AM.
Agenda Bashing
The meeting started with
greetings from the Co-Chairs Dr. Zita Wenzel and Mr. Atsushi ENDO welcoming all
the participants to
1.
Roll Call
The chair then asked all the attendees to introduce themselves. It was followed by a review of the day’s agenda by the Co-Chair, Dr. Zita.
2.
AP* Organization and Meeting Reports
2.1. APAN
by Prof. Shigeki Goto
The presenter, Prof. Goto,
mentioned that there was not much to update since after AP* Retreat in
APAN has a 10-year history now
and two meetings a year. Before wrapping up the presentation, Prof. Goto gave
brief details of the TIEN2 Kick-Off workshop that was to be held successfully in
September last year by Prof. Kanchana at intERLab, Asian Institute of
Technology in
Questions and Discussions:
-
Co-chair Dr. Zita, who is with PacificWave/TransLight
added that the connections are primarily West Coast
2.2. APCERT
by Mr. Jack Y S Lin
APCERT (Asia Pacific Computer
Emergency and Response Team) is a coalition of CSIRTs (Computer Security
Incident Response Teams) and CERTs (Computer Emergency Response Teams) across
the Asia Pacific region. It was officially founded in February 2003. Starting
from 15 teams from 12 economies, it now consists of 17 teams from 13 economies
and 2 new members: BruCERT (
The presenter briefed the
participants about APCERT Drill – CJK (
The presentation was wrapped up of a MoU was signed between APCERT and TF-CSIRT (TERENA’s Task Force of Computer Security Incident Response Teams), which is the European counterpart of APCERT.
Questions and Discussions:
- No questions and discussions were held.
2.3. APEET
by Mr. Hiro Hotta
The presenter, Hiro Hotta, started with the organization of APEET in which six members are included.
o Chairs
§ J. Seng (Chair, SG)
§ H. Chen (Vice Chair, CN)
§ C. Ching (Vice Chair, TW)
It is stated that J. Seng and C. Ching will be leaving from APEET soon and replacements will be made for vacant posts.
o Full Members
§ SGNIC
§ CNNIC
§ JPRS
§ NIDA (KRNIC)
§ TWNIC
§ InternetNZ
The annual meeting was held on 23 Aug 2005 where the charter update and chair election took place. The usual meetings were held with IRC, but at this point of time, it was a slow move.
The ENUM/SIP live trial was
launched during APRICOT 2005 in
Conferences/ Presentations available are as follows:
Questions and Discussions:
- No questions and discussions were held.
2.4. APNetabuse/APCAUCE
by Mr. Takaaki Higuchi
The presenter, Takaaki Higuchi,
started the presentation saying APCAUCE stands for Asia Pacific Coalition
Against Unsolicited Commercial Email which was founded in 2003 at the AP*
Retreat in Taipei under the umbrella of the CAUCE organization for Asia Pacific
and advocates responsible email practices and anti-spam regulation.
APCAUCE Structure
Speaking about APCAUCE
activities, annual meeting and conference session is held with APRICOT in
In summer 2005, APCAUCE joined London Action Plan which was founded to help government agencies coordinate internationally on legislation and enforcement issues related to spam. (URL: http://www.londonactionplan.net/) APCAUCE is accessible at http://www.apcauce.org and three mailing lists to subscribe which are apcauce-announce, apcauce-discuss and apcauce-committee.
Finally, the presenter invited all to join next annual
meeting which will be held in conjunction with APRICOT 2006 in
Questions and Discussions:
- No questions and discussions were held.
2.5. APNG
by Prof. Okhwa Lee
Prof. Lee, Chair of the APNG, firstly
explained the aim of APNG Camp which is to encourage the next generation and
the next-generation-at-heart to join the Internet society, where in the future
they will play a leading role and holds NEXT GENERATION Camp at regular
intervals. Speaking about the history of APNG camp, APNG believes that its
history is as important as our future. The
APNG supports ICANN’s At-Large membership and works for the establishment of Regional At-large Organization (RALO) in the AP region. The AP-RALO meeting was held on 24 August at Howard Plaza Hotel and was attended by 15 people from the region and chaired by Dr. Kuo Wei Wu. The committee had Yoo Ji Yul as chair, Izumi Aizu as co-chair and Kaip Chawla, Ching Chia, James Seng, Hong Xue, Quian Hualin and Tommy Matsumoto were committee members.
Finally, the presenter, Prof. Lee, covered the APNG organization and other APNG Camp Initiatives and Challenges which are as follows:
· Continue APNG Camp
o Once or twice a year : Once a Year
o Cooperate with APAN : Mainly with APAN Summer Meeting
o Cooperate with APRICOT : depends on
o Expand fellowship program
o Having camp in developing countries
· Supporting Local Camp
o Funding sponsor
o Participation
o Start-up Supporting
Questions and Discussions:
- Originally
AP"NG" is not "Next Generation" but "Networking
Group".
- There is no vision for cultivating ex-APNG Camp participants to AP
region Internet leader.
- Mr. Ole Jacobsen mentioned that recently
2.6. APNIC
by Ms. Nurani Nimpuno
The speaker, Ms. Nurani, introduced
herself to the attendees again and started with a slide with pictures of the
staff of APNIC who comes from diverse backgrounds and more than half of them
come from regions outside
Under technical services, she talked about resource allocations of IPv4, Ipv6 and ASNs. Another important service which was being worked on at that moment was resource certificates RFC 3779 (Secure BGP protocol). Under this project, APNIC will establish a service to issue RFC3779 compliance certificates to APNIC accounts holders, allowing them to make trusted assertions about their resources. To achieve this APNIC will develop a policy and technical infrastructure to support the use of resource certificates. MyAPNIC is one of the services for members to come in and manipulate their allocations and services. It also has an online voting feature.
APNIC has also implemented greylisting on APNIC
mail servers in an effort to reduce the amount of spam APNIC receives. In
relating to root servers,
Over the past year, the APNIC Secretariat staff have created a range of multimedia presentations, including video and Flash animations. These presentations are designed to serve as educational tools and focus on a variety of different subjects of relevance to APNIC members and the Internet community in general. The presenter described the project as “a significant addition to APNIC’s information library”. In the area of Internet Governance, a number of Internet organizations including NRO, ISOC and ICANN, worked together on the Internet Pavilion, a stand at the WSIS side event, ICT4all exhibition. It was visited by a number of representatives from government delegations and the world’s media as well as from the civil society and the private sector.
Policy status – APNIC 20
· IANA policy for allocation of IPv6 blocks to RIRs – Approved
· Application of HD ration to IPv4 – Continue ML discussions
· Depreciation of ip6.int reverse DNS service in APNIC – Approved
· IPv6 HD ration from 0.8 to 0.94 – Approved
· IPv6 assignment size /56 – No consensus
(URL: www.apnic.net/docs/policy)
Winding up her presentation, the
speaker announced the upcoming APNIC meetings, the 21st APNIC Open
Policy Meeting in
Questions and Discussions:
- No questions and discussions were held.
2.7. APRICOT/APIA by Mr. Ole Jacobsen
The presenter, Mr. Ole Jacobsen,
talked about the
- Abhisak Chulya, Chairman
- Gaurab Upadhaya, Vice-chairman
- Koyko Day, Treasurer
- Philip Smith, Secretary
- Ole Jacobsen
- Scott MacDonald
- James Seng
PIKOM, the Association of the
Computer and Multimedia Industry of Malaysia, is hosting
APRICOT2006 is like a sort of two-week event starting from February 22 through March 3rd, and including workshops, tutorials, conference and APNIC maintenance. At the end of the presentation, the presenter opened for questions and discussions.
Questions and Discussions:
- No questions were put up and further discussions held
after the presentation. 2.8. APRU
by Dr. Zita Wenzel
The speaker, Dr. Zita, said that
APRU http://www.apru.net.org/ is a group
of thirty six leading research universities across the
APRUNet projects:
APRUNet has held six “Distance Learning and the Internet Conferences” over the past years:
These are major international
conferences on distance learning and the Internet and the speaker said they
have been getting better and better. It is primarily attended by the APRU
Universities but the presenter emphasized that it is open to everyone and
encouraged the others to take part in it or pass the information to their
respective organizations that might be interested in attending it. The next
conference “Distance Learning and the Internet Conference 2006”will be hosted
by
Questions and Discussions:
- No questions and
discussions were held.
2.9. APTLD
by Ms. Ohashi Yumi
The speaker, Ms. Ohashi Yumi, introduced
herself to all attendees and apologized for handouts unreadiness in the meeting
folders. APTLD (www.aptld.org) is an
association for Asia Pacific Top Level Domains. It is a regional organization
for ccTLD Managers in
Speaking
about the activities carried out by the association in 2005, the speaker
informed the attendees that they had three meetings. October meeting was the
first APTLD meeting in the Western Asia (
Lastly for outreach, adopting the
proposal given by AIT in
Winding
up her presentation, the presenter outlined the future plans: expanding the web content available to members and remote
participation options for APTLD meetings by making a better use of online
meetings. Once the GM is in place, the resources will be increased and
committed to outreach in areas of the region not covered by their next meeting
and as well as to work with ICANN to develop their plans for greater regional
outreach, as ICANN intends to establish proper regional presence as defined in
their strategic plan. APTLD hopes to implement plans for the AIT (
Questions and Discussions:
-
No questions and discussions were held.
2.10.
AIII/SOI-Asia
by Ms. Shoko Mikawa
The presenter briefed about
SOI-Asia project which is a distance learning project using the Internet
infrastructure or satellite link Internet. It has been working on developing
Asian region by sharing lectures, human resource development, and building
human communication networks. With one gateway site at
One of the major activities in
2005 was giving support toward recovery from Tsunami disaster which was occured
on December 26. From
Questions and Discussions:
-
No questions and discussions were held.
2.11. AP* Retreat Secretariat by Ms. Wit Hmone
AP* is a community of AP Internet
organizations and AP* Retreat is a common to exchange updated information among
these organizations. The meetings are being held twice a year, one with APRICOT
and another one with APAN. In 2005, the first meeting was held in conjunction
with APRICOT 2005 in
Questions and Discussions:
- Dr. Zita appreciated the Secretariat’s assistance in organizing today’s meeting.
- Mr. Jacobsen suggested to think of a funding model for supporting AP* Retreat meetings like a corporate sponsorship.
- Mr. Hotta also added that it would be very grateful if funding issues should be raised and discussed since meeting expenses cannot be covered ONLY by the contributions collected.
-
In response to Mr. Jacobsen’s point on how much budget
would be needed for the AP* Retreat Secretariat, the Secretariat mentioned that
the annual budget USD 6000 would do the smooth running of the secretariat.
2.12. DotAsia Organisation by Mr. Che-Hoo CHENG
Dot
Vision:
The boundaries of the DotAsia
community are clearly defined based on the ICANN Asia/
Till now, the organization has not yet been set up. However, DotAsia has received signed LOI from 23 members to join the initiative including 20 ccTLDs and 3 regional organizations. Many of the participating ccTLDs have direct or indirect relationships with the respective ministry or relevant authority. Among the 20 ccTLDs that have joined the DotAsia, more than a handful have not participated previously at ICANN nor have they joined regional groups or even the GAC. DotAsia have received in total more than 50 letters of support from a board spectrum of organizations, including government departments, end-user groups, ISP associations and other community groups and respectable individuals. No objection has been received from government.
Special Features:
· Pan-Asia and Asia Pacific regional presence requirement
· Augmenting UDRP & WIPO reserved domains list with local DRP & reserved lists
• Improve regional intellectual property rights protection
• Especially important for IDNs
· Joint marketing with ccTLDs
·
Reinvests surpluses into socio-technical
initiatives in
• Leverage existing initiatives
· Support fully standards compliant IDN deployment
· No objection has been received from governments
Milestones:
Contract negotiation with ICANN is still going on and hopefully contract will be signed soon. DotAsia Organisation Limited was formally set up and recruited members including AP-based organizations. The reversed name list was established in cooperation with ccTLD members and governments in the region from AP and hopefully, .ASIA will be launched by end of 2006.
Questions and Discussions:
- No questions and discussions were held.
2.13.
intERLab by Prof. Kanchana Kanchanasut
Prof.
Kanchana briefed about intERLab’s history by saying that a Human Resources
Development Coordination center in the Asia Pacific Region was needed and AIT
being an international institution fitted the requirements. Launched on
December 15, 2003, it was endorsed by the ministry of Information and
Communication Technology in
•
AP
•
Training
•
e-Education
(e-Learning)
•
Research
At the AP Internet Information
Center, intERLab hosts AP* Retreat secretariat, APAN secretariat (up to Dec
’05), APNIC Training Event Coordinator and APNG permanent secretariat starting
from October 2005. Speaking about intERLab’s trainings during last six months,
in 2005, the TEIN2 Kick-off workshop was held from 5-10 September 2005 at
intERLab/AIT in
Upcoming trainings for 2006:
•
Advanced
Network Security (6-10 February)
•
VoIP and
SIP (15-16 March)
•
Basic
DNS (30-31 May)
•
Advanced
DNS Workshop (20-23 June)
•
Basic
Routing (23-25 August)
•
Advanced
Routing (28-30 August)
•
Multicast
Workshop (25-27 October)
•
Trouble
Shooting (TBC)
• Emergency Response (TBC)
Upcoming conference in 2006:
•
Asian Internet
Engineering Conference (AINTEC) 2006, 28-30 November 2006 @ AIT,
•
Pre-conference: 17th
The intERLab is working closely with AI3, Asia Broadband, THAIREN, TEIN2 for Internet infrastructure projects in the area of rural connectivity, eCulture, ENUM Study and Multimedia Architecture and Applications based on SIP and a joint research grant with INRIA and the Japanese WIDE project on “IPv6 and Rural Connectivity” which was started in 2004.
Questions and Discussions:
- No questions and discussions were held.
5. The Internet in the AP region – Introduction by Mr. Atsushi ENDO and Dr. Zita Wenzel
AP* organizations listed on AP* website (www.apstar.org) were reviewed by the attendees.
In response to the question
raised by the Co-chair Dr. Zita whether there are any other Internet related
organizations that should be represented by AP* and/or not, Prof. Toru advised
to add Asia Pacific Internet Research Alliance (APiRA) and
6. Future of the AP* Retreat
One of existing goals of the AP* is it could be a platform to operate a powerful federation of Asia Pacific Internet organizations which is the original goal of AP* Retreat.
Presents were:
• APAN coordinating international Asia Pacific networking
• APCERT coordinating Asia Pacific security
• APEET coordinating ENUM trials and education
•
APCAUCE coordinating
• APNG coordinating Asia Pacific internet camp
• APNIC coordinating IP address space, experts, root servers
• APOPS coordinating operators
• APRICOT/APIA
• APRU Pacific Rim universities distance learning partnerships
• APTLD coordinating Asia Pacific Top Level Domains
• AIII/SOI distance learning project
• AP* Retreat coordinating Asia Pacific organizations
• intERLab research and training facility for Asia Pacific
13 out of 44 AP organizations presented and gave updated reports at today’s meeting.
It was created in 1998. The vision of AP* is to provide a strong united front for all Asia Pacific internet organizations to deal with international issues of governance, administration, management, research, development, education, public awareness of the Internet.
Original goals set were:
• How we could improve networking within AP* organizations?
• This could be a platform for us to inaugurate a powerful Federation of Asia Pacific Internet Organizations (FAPIO).
• Asia Pacific's role in the future of Internet governance.
• Watch over activities in this region and respond.
The Co-chair Dr. Zita summarized the three bullet points from discussions held in previous sections:
• Networking and sharing (interpersonal and organizational)
• Activities, meetings, events
•
Common voice to address international issues (after US,
• e.g., APNIC
• Identify needs / issues and propose solutions /activities
• Create a body or program (e.g., APTLD in coordination with Top Level Domain, intERLab for training and education for AP region)
Past Achievements or Outgrowth
of AP* Retreat
• Human networking and information sharing
• Organizations:
– APCCIRN -> APNG
– APNG -> APNIC
–
APNG ->
– APTLD
– MINC
– intERLab
– .Asia
•
“History of the Internet in
– and timeline to go along with
Prof. Goto gave a comment that
since APCCIRN was the only coordinating body in
Speaking about achievements, Prof. Goto added that APAN should be counted too because it was initiated by almost the same people.
Prof. Lee advised to discuss and to categorize the organizations represented here today were whether in government orgs or NGOs or industry or research groups etc. or else, AP* was open to all.
Prof. Goto said one of the motives that AP* Retreat is quite simple which is to share the common calendar of the schedules. For example APAN trying to hold the meeting and we don’t want to clash with other meetings. The current AP* webpage is well maintained and there is also related meetings page and easy to cross-check to avoid any clashes or to co-locate it intentionally side by side. Response to this fact, Zita confirmed that it is a very valid and concrete for information sharing among AP* orgs.
Prof. Kanchana added that AP* Retreat a meeting place not only for sharing information but also sharing resources. Ms. Yumi Ohashi also supported this fact by mentioning the joint collaboration between APTLD and intERLab for outreach training, initiated in AP* Retreat, is a concrete example that we should keep the human networking and resource sharing as one of our goals.
Mr. Hotta recalled that in the past AP* Retreat talked about AP Joint Secretariat. Prof. Kanchana mentioned that the intERLab is a de-facto but it is working out so well. APJS was the idea of Prof. Kilnam Chon who decided to set it up.
Regarding the actions coming out of identifying needs and propose solution, Dr. Zita gave an example the fact that there is the need for training and education for the community in the region, and then intERLab was created to address that issue. That’s the very strong statement to keep the third bullet point. Prof. Kanchana said that there will also be new needs/issues/demands coming up in the future and need to address these issues so that it is very valid to hold this third goal. She asked for a better commitment from the members in executing the activities. Just identifying the areas is not enough but needs to commit.
7. AP* Retreat
Report to the APAN General Assembly
The AP* Retreat was held on Sunday, January 22 in conjunction with the APAN
meeting. AP* is an open meeting of various Asia Pacific internet organizations.
At different times, up to 44 organizations have participated.
Representatives from 13 Asia Pacific internet organizations reported on their
organizations’ activities on Sunday. Started in 1998, this meeting “The AP*
Retreat Retreat” reviewed the group’s history and reset goals for the coming
years.
Previously, the goals of AP* included sharing information and networking
(reports are given from all participating organizations), providing a forum to
build Asia Pacific support for international issues (for example, formation of
APTLD), and identifying issues and providing solutions (such as the need for
The current goals are:
• Act as an initial point of contact for
Asia Pacific networking
organizations
- Via web site links
- By presentations at other meetings
(e.g., APAN)
• Be open to input of issues from outside community
- Identification of larger Asia
Pacific representation issues
• Networking and sharing (interpersonal and organizational)
- Activities, meetings, events,
calendars
- Collaborations and partnerships
- Share resources (experts, equipment,
information)
• Identify needs / issues and propose solutions /activities
- Reports include identification of
current issues
- Commitment to help address solutions
Current AP* Organizations
• AP* Retreat coordinating Asia Pacific networking organizations
• APAN coordinating international Asia Pacific networking
• APCERT coordinating Asia Pacific security
• APEET coordinating Asia Pacific ENUM trails and education
•
APCAUCE coordinating
• APNG coordinating Asia Pacific internet camp
• APNIC coordinating Asia Pacific IP address space, root servers
• APOPS coordinating Asia Pacific network operators
• APRICOT/APIA providing Asia Pacific conferences and events
• APRU Pacific Rim universities distance learning partnerships
• APTLD coordinating Asia Pacific Top Level Domains
• AII/SOI Asia Pacific distance learning project
• intERLab research and training facility for Asia Pacific
13 organizations represented on Sunday out of 44 total affiliated ones.
Original AP* Goals
• How we can improve networking within AP* organizations?
• This could be a platform for us to inaugurate a powerful Federation of Asia Pacific Internet Organizations.
• Provide input on Asia Pacific’s role in the future of Internet governance.
• Watch over activities in this region and respond.
AP* History and Achievements
• Human networking and information sharing
o Organization reports and calendar coordination
• Organizations:
o APCCIRN à APNG
o APNG à APNIC
o
APNG à
o APTLD
o MINC
o intERLab
o .Asia
•
“History of the Internet in
o And time line
Actual AP* Goals
• Networking and sharing (interpersonal and organizational)
o Activities, meetings, events (e.g., calendars)
• Common voice to address international issues
o e.g., APTLD
• Identify needs/issues and propose solutions/ activities
o Create a body (APNG/camp) or program (intERLab)
Rebuilt AP* Goals
• Networking and sharing (interpersonal and organizational)
o Activities, meetings, events, calendar coordination
o Collaborations and partnerships (APTLD and intERLab)
o Share resources (experts, equipment, information)
• Identify needs/ issues and propose solutions/ activities
o Reports will include identification of current issues
o Commitment to help address solutions
o Be open to input of issues from outside community
• Act as an initial point of contact for Asia Pacific networking organizations
o Identification of larger Asia Pacific representation issues
o Web site links to other organizations
o Presentations at other meetings (eg., APAN)
AP* Collaboration
We want to emphasize:
• AP* is an open organization.
• AP* is a starting point into at least 44 Asia Pacific networking organizations.
• It is encouraged to input about current issues facing the Asia Pacific community today so that perhaps AP* can help draw resources from its participants to provide resources and/or solutions.
8. Others and
Future Meetings
-
After much discussion, it was decided to hold the next
AP Retreat meeting in Singapore on 17 July 2006 in conjunction with next
summer, 22nd APAN meeting. APNG Camp will be also held from 18-20
July 2006 in conjunction with APAN meeting in
- Mr. James Seng and Dr. Zita Wenzel were recommended unanimously as co-chairs for the next meeting.
- The meeting adjourned at 5:00 PM.